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April 15th, 2015 at 06:15 pm

Hi all! So I have some potential changes coming on the job front and I was just thrown a curveball. So my immediate supervisor is a lovely woman but kind of a train wreck, and the person our whole department now reports to is a raging bitch (pardon my french, haha). My plan had always been to stay here until my supervisor retires, and then apply for her position, but the way things are now, I wouldn't want it! I happen to know she has currently applied for another job and is waiting to hear back.

So there is now a manager opportunity in my field, head of a department of 4 people, with my same company but a different hospital (so all seniority, vacation time, 401K matching, etc would transfer), that will be posted any day now and I am going to apply for. There has been a lot of turnover there but I have heard things are getting a lot better (from the people I would be supervising).

So I went down today to tell the head of my hospital that I was going to apply for it. I don't report to her, so I didn't need let her know per policy, but I like and respect her and wanted her to hear it from me (someone else who works here is married to "raging bitch" boss and I don't trust him to keep his mouth shut after wife tells him at the dinner table tonight).

She told me that she has been pushing to have me report directly to her, and asked me if I would consider staying if it came with a title change (to manager) and a pay raise. I told her I would certainly consider it, but that it would need to happen fast because I expect this other opportunity to come fast (I've already spoken to the hiring manager and they seem to really want me to come work there). I'm not going to stay here on the promise that something will happen in the future that might never actually happen. She said she will go to our CEO today and tell her that they need to do whatever it takes to keep me here.

So bottom line is, I love my hospital, I love the person I would wind up reporting to, and I would most definitely stay if they made me a good offer.

So when they come to me and ask what it would take to make me stay, how much do I ask for?? I've use salary.com, payscale.com, and indeed.com, and I don't make anywhere near what those sites say I "should" be making. I have never found those sites to be all that accurate. My field is small and specialized so there's not a lot to go off of from online research. I was thinking that if I took the new manager position at the other hospital, I'd ask for about 10% more, but knowing my company they'd offer me a fair bit less than that.

Any advice from people who have been there? I've never been told "tell me what we need to give you to make you stay" before and I want to ask for as much as they might reasonably give me without looking crazy! Smile

3 Responses to “Need job/pay advice”

  1. snafu Says:

    http://www.salary.com/8-answers-negotiation-questions/

    I'm not sure the link will work, there are several pages. They emphasis using percentage increases rather than talking dollars.
    Is your place of employment a sought after employer or are people seeking to leave?

  2. Kiki Says:

    I usually ask the range they were considering and let them reply.

  3. frugalredhead Says:

    Thanks Snafu, the link worked. My employer is one of the largest employers in my area, and at my particular hospital, people tend to stay for a long time. it is a very nice place to work, with mostly wonderful people, and a small family feel. I really do love it here.

    The benefits of taking the other job is that it's closer to home (less gas and no tolls = $55 extra/month), and it's a management position, so more responsibility, as well as that hospital having services that we don't have at mine so I would broaden my expertise.

    However, I'd be going into a department that has had a lot of trouble keeping people in the past, which concerns me even though the people who are there now say that it's a much better place to work than it used to be.

    so even if they give me more money and a manager title to stay where I am, I am still missing out on some experience that I could gain by leaving. But on the other hand, the new job would be a lot more responsibility and pressure.

    I'm just going to apply for the new job, see what comes through with this one, and then make the decision when I have one to make, I guess!

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